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In Utero Symbols

SYMBOLS FROM TOP LEFT CORNER TO TOP RIGHT CORNER:

1: sow - most popular animal form of the Goddess -- Demeter often appeared as one
2: jar sprouting a stream of water - symbol for fertility &
fertility gods
3: honeycomb - see "bee"
4: dolphin - totem of Demeter as Mistress of the Sea - word "dolphin" comes from Greek word for "womb"
5: triangle - represented female + trinity of Goddess (Virgin, Mother, Crone) - also represented fire
6: mare - symbolizes Goddess Epona + daytime aspect of Mareheaded Demeter - Scandinavian witches turned themselves into mares

SYMBOLS FROM TOP RIGHT TO BOTTOM RIGHT:

1: Alchemical Rose - symbol of sacred womb - symbol of virgin daughter within mother - applied to images like Kore/Demeter and Mary/Eve
2: Baubo - [I think you could easily read this as Baubo representing Courtney and Demeter representing Kurt] - female clown which managed to draw laughter from Demeter in the midst of her grief. Baubo induced the Great Mother to forget her anger long enough to take a little nourishment.
3: diameter - symbol for water, salt, and sea - related to the primordial Mother Goddess, who mingled all elements to create life from flesh (earth), blood (water), breath (air), and fire (vital heat)
4: ??? (wasn't in the 1988 printing)
5: symbol for planet Pluto - female Pluto deity who was despised and discredited by Greeks + was combined w. Demeter in a triple form (Virgin, Mother, and Crone)
6: poppy - "since opium and its derivatives--morphine, heroin--are extracted from the opium poppy, it is hardly surprising to find the flower associated w. sleep, inertia, numbness, and death. Demeter as a death Goddess was often shown with poppies [like the Heart-Shaped Box video]....Thebaine yields an important narcotic antagonist, naloxone, which is given to infants born of heroin addicts, to help soften the sock of withdrawl that such infants must go through"

SYMBOLS FROM BOTTOM RIGHT TO BOTTOM LEFT

1: Sub Pop logo
2: Geffen logo
3: oops - forgot to look this one up
4: bee - greatly prized because they gave valuable honey - Demeter addressed as "the pure mother bee" - identified w. mortality in folklore - "bee was symbol of feminine potency of nature"
5: infinity sign - [another interesting one] - sexual union and sense of perfection - two becoming one (two uniting circles, one representing man and the other woman)

SYMBOLS FROM BOTTOM LEFT TO TOP LEFT

1: ???? - not in the 1988 edition
2: sulfer - sacred to Athene - associated w. purification - also symbolized angry aspect of Athene (Goddess Brimo), which was also identified w. Demeter
3: labrys (axe) - stood for Amazons and their Goddess (Demeter / Artemis / etc.) - has been adopted by lesbians as their amuletic symbol
4: corn dolly - embodiment of the harvest - one of its many alternate names was the Demeter
5: symbol for Ceres, Roman title of Great Goddess as Mother of the Harvest and ruler of all grains - indicated planting of male seed in earth's womb
6: sistrum - used to worship Egyptian Great Goddess - sacred rattle - its sound dispelled evil spirits

taken from: erase.me@nashville.com

Krist Novoselic's internet posts -

*This is the first of his posts:

From: Krist Novoselic <[email address deleted]>
Newsgroups: alt.music.nirvana
Date: 24 Sep 94 21:34 PDT
Subject: Steve Tyler is cool.

Kurt respected Steven tyler and Aerosmith very much. He met Steven once and Steven laid a NA trip on him & Courtney and Mike Starr from Alice in Chains. Not preaching about NA , just relating about his trips with drugs and all. They would all have been good to listen to Mr. TR Tyler. Steve knew hiss shit and just wanted to relate to them. Youthful cynicism or what ever, we shall see.

*this is the second post:

From [email address deleted] Wed Nov 9 18:12:43 EST 1994

Thank you all for the messages. I cannot answer n any of them. I am sorry. I don't have the time or the energy and frankly, I can't dwell on Nirvana. I can't spill my guts. It's too personal and again, I can't dwell on it. I guess I'm the little bass player who can't. Chugga, chugga, choo, choo. Wow that was a rush. I'm embarassed! There is too much pain. I'm over the daily "grief waves" but still go through feelings of confusion, anger, regrets,
missing him and alot of times a feeling of beautiful loving feelings for my friend. Fuck this is enough. Next time I'll upload so my software can tell me when i am repeating words too often. It's late and I'm kinda tired. Nothing matters anymore anyway. The christians are going to baptise us before we're marched up to the wall. I'm talking about the mid term elections. When the Christian coalition comes a knocken, both house's are gonna have to heed. If that's the case, God help us all! (sic) True Christains want to emulate Jesus. You know, to be right on and not judge, be forgiving bring wine to weddings and have long hair and a beard. The suede denim secret police are gonna get me for that one, fer sure. Wow, by the way I've been rambling, you'd think that I was Courtney or some thing.
I could never match that prose though, shre(Whoops) she should get her degree. So many people are gonna read this because Krist Novoselic wrote it but let me tell you this, I am a man of the proletariat! This is quite a boast comming from my tax bracket. Remember, socialism is an ethic not an ideology! I write this under the gase of an actual portrait, not a print, of Lenin. I scored
this at the Pike Place Market and it came from some soviet beu bureau in Vladivostok. Newt Gingrich has his St Paul I have no one. You don't think that I'm some le bolshevik. Who needs Lenin when you have Mao? I'm gonna start a shining path sattelite up here in the northwest. I want a Satellite with a 383 and a four speed pistol grip shifter. Super Bee. Coronet. Charger. The whole of this silly rant is that I really don't have much to say, right now. Sure if I were to be in the seat next to you on a plane and we struck up a conversation, we'd pass the time by discussing the topics of the day or what ever. I cannot answe5r Nirvana questions. The mail I got was sweet and I apreaciate it by hey, as the Flav says, "Can't do nothing for you man!" To be truthful, I'll read your messages but won't reply. Who am I any way. I'm the guy next in line at Safeway. I'm the person in the left lane of traffic who gets uptight when people won't get over. I was in an e imencly popular rock band. Did I spell immense right? What ever. I understand the power of music so i understand you all. Sometimes I can't understand jack asses who
talk shit about dear old Kurt but as a true democrat,NO party ffiliation, I'll respect the fact that they have a right to thier opinion, no matter how shallow and misinformed it is. We need more respect in this world. Remember that the music biz and the rock press have a symbiotic relationship. Remember that Nirvana was about music, first and foremost. Remeber Leon Trotsky. THe Fugs, "Dirty Old Man". Remember not to e mail me. I will not answer.
You are all good. good bye and god blesss!

*Here is the third post:

From: NOVOSELIC ON RS#748
Newsgroups: alt.music.nirvana
Subject: NOVOSELIC ON RS#748
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:13:50 -0800

I've just finished reading the Rolling Stone Article on Pearl
Jam and Eddie Vedder. It breaks my heart the way they tear
apart Eddie. I really don't think Rolling Stone has the authority
to carry out such a thrashing. There are many points in the
article that I take issue with.

First off, on a personal note, it was painful that those
writers had to exhume Kurt to build up their case against Pearl
Jam. R.S. opened up a can of worms. No one was above or
below receiving a negative perspective from Kurt. No one. Some
were printed, some weren't. I'll assure Rolling Stone that a
quickly penned message on a T-shirt was the least of it. I'll tell
you this though, if Kurt knew someone was personally hurt by
his words, he truly felt bad. God bless Kurt.

It seems like the magazine believes it has license to use
Kurt's name to illustrate any point it wants to make. A few
months ago it was a reefer madness, anti-drug hysteria article
against Seattle. Now they dig up Kurt to slam one of our
exemplary community leaders. This belligerence and disrespect
annoys me.

What standard is R.S. basing its scrutiny on? For R.S. to judge Pearl Jam or Eddies credibility, in regards to the revolution, is a complete ruse. If not the revolution, then what are they holding him up to? I have original copies of the earliest R.S. magazines. I love them. 30 years ago they had something to say. Printed on newsprint it was like a fanzine, the music and politics covered were truly revolutionary. Today, the magazine is pop culture and political status quo. Why did R.S. move away from it's original mission? It did so to keep up with it's demographic. R.S. may be successful but is it real? I'd like to quote a true revolutionary, Jesus Christ, who said, "It is better to have not known me than to have known me and turned away".

R.S. turned away long ago. Rolling Stone magazine
doesn't have the authority or credibility to judge anyone.

Krist Novoselic

Tom Grant:
*Who is Tom Grant?
Tom Grant is an investigator in California. He was
originally hired by Courtney to find Kurt. He has formulated theories that Kurt was murdered. He has accumulated quite the online following and has
just as many people who think he's crazy.
Tom Grant has his own web site where he updates his theories:
http://websites.earthlink.net/~tomgrant

Mini book reviews:
This is a list of the books out there dealing with Nirvana that I've
read, and my opinion on them.

Come As You Are: The Story of Nirvana - by Michael Azerrad
Virgin Books - Released 10/21/93. Rereleased late '94 with new
final chapter.
-A necessity. If you like Nirvana and don't have this book, go out and buy it. Referred to on alt.music.nirvana as "CAYA".

Route 666: On the Road to Nirvana - by Gina Arnold
-I skimmed this book in the bookstore one day, and it only appeared to briefly mention the band. The main focus is on the music scene.

Never Fade Away: The Kurt Cobain Story - by Dave Thompson
-This book reads like a tabloid newspaper does. Filled with
inaccuracies.

Cobain - The Editors of Rolling Stone
-This is a great collection of articles and interviews about Nirvana from the archives of Rolling Stone. The pictures are great and so are the articles. It's hardcover and will run you about $30, but it's well worth it.